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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

Forgive me for interrupting, but I am conscious that I am monopolising the floor here. Given the context that you have set out, what happens if the bill criminalises the buyer?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

Dr Sandy, I think that you would take a similar view of the Nordic model. Do you have any evidence to add to that from Dr Vuolajärvi?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

What is your evidence?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

Dr Sandy, forgive me for interrupting, but the question that I need evidence on is less about decriminalisation and specifically about criminalisation of the buyer. What is the evidence on the impact there?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful. Ruth Breslin, you take a different view of the Nordic model—the criminalisation of the buyer. We have just heard evidence that tends to a view that criminalisation of the buyer will not achieve the ends of the bill. You would take a different view.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

It was all very helpful. I am very grateful to you all.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

Following on from the point that you have just made, my final question is about long-term prisoners. Yesterday in the chamber, members asked about long-term prisoners, and I was not entirely clear about the response, so I will put the question to you again. You have not ruled out the early release of long-term prisoners—although, for clarity, I understand that that is not being considered as part of the Early Release of Prisoners (Scotland) Regulations 2025. How likely is it that the early release of long-term prisoners will happen? Given the greater danger that, logically, that step would pose to the public and to victims, what enhanced victim notification are you considering were such a move to happen? What analysis is the Government doing of any greater public risk posed by such a move?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Liam Kerr

No. With respect, cabinet secretary, let me answer the question. HMP Kilmarnock was taken back into the public sector. By all means, cabinet secretary, correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that part of Serco’s offer was to open a new wing as part of HMP Kilmarnock, thus increasing capacity and potentially solving the overcrowding issue. The fact that HMP Kilmarnock was taken back into the public sector for what some might suggest are ideological reasons might have ruined that possibility.

Cabinet secretary, this is an ill-thought-through and risky response to a situation that we knew and have known for a long time would occur. I will not be voting for it, and I do not think that the committee should, either.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful for your answer.

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Liam Kerr

I put the same question to Bronagh Andrew. According to the bill’s policy memorandum, the measures are intended to “reduce the number” of people in prostitution. Is there any evidence that models such as the Nordic model achieve a reduction in the number of people in prostitution?