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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 27 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. If, at any point, you want to bring in Graeme Logan or Gayle Gorman, please feel free to do so.

You mentioned the OECD—we will come on to ask some questions about its report shortly. You also spoke about the extent of data collection. One of the other rather pointed conclusions in Audit Scotland’s report is in paragraph 25, which bluntly says:

“The Scottish Government’s national aim is to improve outcomes for all, but it has not set out by how much or by when.”

As well as collecting more data, do you plan to address that charge in the report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

But the Government has targets on, for example, child poverty and fuel poverty. Therefore, has any consideration been given to setting targets on reducing the attainment gap and putting a timescale next to it?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Colin Beattie has a series of questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Okay.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

We might come back to funding and the extent to which it is additional. You mentioned the OECD report. Sharon Dowey has some questions about that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

I now turn to Willie Coffey, who, as I mentioned, is joining us remotely. Willie, the floor is yours.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

We have a further series of questions covering the poverty gap and some of the funding aspects of that. Craig Hoy will begin on that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

My guess is that it probably will be after recess. I also thank Graeme Logan and Gayle Gorman for joining us online. I am sure that we will see you again at some point in the future.

10:04 Meeting suspended.  

10:06 On resuming—  

Public Audit Committee

“Community justice: Sustainable alternatives to custody”

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. Without further ado, I invite Willie Coffey, who is joining us via videolink, to ask the first question.

Public Audit Committee

“Community justice: Sustainable alternatives to custody”

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Richard Leonard

It strikes me that the figures in the briefing are quite stark. In your introduction you mentioned that, for those who are imprisoned for a year or less, 49 per cent will be reconvicted within a year, whereas for those who are put on a community sentence, the reconviction rate is down to less than a third—30 per cent. We know that the balance between custodial sentences and community sentences has plateaued—that expression has been used already. A couple of years ago, the balance between community and custodial sentences was 59 per cent in favour of community sentences, which dropped to 55 per cent and then went back up to 59 per cent. Does the Scottish Government have a target that it wishes to reach in the balance between custodial sentences and community sentences?