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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

I have a couple of follow-up questions. First, I am interested in where you draw the line in relation to exclusions and ethical screening. For example, Eilidh Mactaggart mentioned munitions companies. If a munitions company wanted to diversify into using some of its military hardware for a technical application to do with climate change or whatever, would that be within your scope for investment?

Another example might be forestry. The investments that are taking place are massively welcome, but how far do you go in screening how they are used in marketing? For example, Shell might say, “Come and fill up your car at this petrol station with our petrol and diesel—it’s fine because, for every tank of fuel you buy from us, we are investing in another five trees.”

In thinking about those secondary ethical considerations, I am interested in where you draw the line in your governance with regard to those companies.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

It would be useful if the committee could get that information in a list.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Does HIE have a perspective? There has been discussion about, for example, a marine coastal national park. Is that on your radar?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Will you clarify whether you are able to work across sectors and not exclusively in the private sector? Are you able to work with public companies and social enterprises? We have great examples of public companies delivering heat, such as Aberdeen Heat & Power, and I know that local councils are interested in that space of delivering heat networks and local heat to communities. Can they get support from enterprise agencies to do that or are there restrictions on the agencies’ remits? Are you working across sectors?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26)

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Good morning. I will ask about the UK Government’s engagement in the beyond oil and gas alliance. That initiative is being led by the Danish Government but it seems to be building up a head of steam: Germany, Iceland, Costa Rica, Belize, Portugal, Netherlands, Ireland and New Zealand are all engaging in the work of the alliance. What conversations have there been with the Danish Government about that? How do you intend to engage in the conversation that will be launched at COP26 in Glasgow?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26)

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Coming back to the points that have been made about how UK oil and gas policy might be evolving, particularly with regard to alignment with the Paris agreement, I wonder whether the policy of maximum economic recovery actually puts the oil and gas companies in quite a difficult position. If I were on the board of Shell—which I am not, by the way—I would be faced with, on one hand, a Dutch court ruling telling us that the company has to reduce by 45 per cent its emissions not just from production but from the sale of all fossil fuels and, on the other, the legal obligation that we would have under UK law to extract every single drop from the reserves if we had a licence, under maximum economic recovery. Can you see the difficulty in making the transition under the current policy of maximum economic recovery? If so, how do you see that policy changing over time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26)

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

That suggests that there will be some need for oil and gas, going forward. However, do you acknowledge that that is not the same as maximum economic recovery? That is not the same as there being 20 billion barrels of oil and gas in the North Sea; there might be somewhere south of 6 billion barrels.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environment Bill

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

I have questions about the whole thing. Was the Scottish Government developing a set of due diligence measures on forest risk commodities last year, when the bill was being developed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environment Bill

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Has an attempt been made to engage the UK Government on the substantive policy area? If so, what was the reaction? Why are we now looking at a policy that the UK Government produced without any Scottish Government involvement?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Moving on to something a wee bit different, I know that you share responsibility for biodiversity with Mairi Gougeon, but perhaps that should be a priority across the whole of Government in the way that climate change is becoming a priority. I acknowledge that this stuff is difficult, but the stark reality is that we failed to meet 11 of the 20 Aichi targets that were set for 2020. There might be more of a need for a just transition in some of these areas than in other sectors, and I think that you have already alluded to agriculture, fisheries and the marine environment as areas where we need a step change.

I am interested in hearing your thoughts on this issue, given that you have part of the brief and have a minister working with you on it. What do you see as not only the challenges but the opportunities? How do we ensure that biodiversity is as mainstreamed as climate change is becoming across Government policy, whether it be in farming, the planning system, energy or whatever?