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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
I do not know whether I understand what you are saying, to be honest.
I do not want to get into the detail, but I am a Glasgow member and two major fire stations are earmarked for closure there. The closure of either station would be a massive problem for Glasgow. Surely, in your strategic review and everything else, you need to ask for a budget that gives you scope not to have to make those decisions, or is there no relationship between the budget asks and the potential closures?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Right, so that almost sits independently from the outcome on the budget.
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Chief constable, you told the committee that, with the exception of the Fire and Rescue Service, the police might be the only public sector organisation that has taken such a reduction in its budget. Have you had that conversation with the cabinet secretary and put that to her directly? If so, what was the Government’s response to that? It is alarming to hear that, given what you have outlined to the committee about the challenges of policing and how important it is to communities.
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
I want to be clear in my mind about the numbers, because there are a lot of numbers. You told the committee that you have already lost 900 officers. Over what period did that happen?
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Thank you. For completeness, does Dr Forbes want to contribute anything from the prosecutor’s perspective in response to my question to Liliana about consent?
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Chief constable, I want to ask you first about the closure of police stations. A number have closed for different reasons, although it has mainly been for budget reasons. There is a list of proposed further police station closures, although I believe that some of those are being held back for the budget outcome. The situation is concerning for communities, as well as for police officers. If I consider my constituency in Glasgow, were Stewart Street station to close, Baird Street would be the nearest. There are implications for everyone.
If the Government acceded to your request for budgetary capital and revenue, what would that mean for those police stations? Would it give you room for manoeuvre to save some of them?
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Yes. We have heard a lot of evidence that we should just decriminalise it. However, if we did that, my concern would be that the harm to women who are involved in prostitution that we have spoken about—
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
If there is no improvement to the proposed budget, would that take the numbers down further than the existing establishment?
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Chief Constable Farrell, I think that you said that the ask in the budget was for 600 community officers and 250 officers to work on the challenges of serious and organised crime. I presume that that would be experienced officers, but you can tell me if that is not the case.
Criminal Justice Committee Draft
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Liliana Torres Jiménez, you have spoken about the technicalities involved in the framing of the legislation. What is your view of the issue of consent, which is an issue in sexual offences such as rape?
Outside the committee, I went to a meeting held by Ash Regan, which was attended by women who had been involved in the sex trade in various countries such as Canada and Sweden. I appreciate that those countries have different laws. However, the women spoke about the difficulties there in prosecuting crimes of rape and other sexual offences that turn on the question of consent when the sale of sex is legal and—to use the phrase that they did—a contractual matter.
Do you see similar problems in Scotland for women who face the same threats as others who are involved in the sex trade and who might be the victims of crime even if the act of selling sex were to be lawful?