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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

I am interested in prisoners who are not currently on drugs but who might be struggling with not getting their health appointments while they are serving their sentence in overcrowded conditions. Does that add to the problem of drug use in prisons?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

Right on cue.

Good morning. I want to further explore the issue of overcrowding and what leads male prisoners in particular to start taking drugs when they had not previously done so. You heard me gasp when you said that there are 1,400 male prisoners in Barlinnie—that is utterly shocking. I feel for the prison staff who operate in that environment, and for the prisoners.

Why is Barlinnie the prison where you put everybody? Is there a reason why that prison is so overcrowded? That must surely have an impact on the wellbeing of the male prisoners and lead to them taking drugs.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

I know that you share my concerns, and I appreciate that you do not make the decisions, but I am trying to understand what you are doing to compensate for the experience of prisoners who are trying to stop going on drugs or to get off drugs, or who want to look after themselves while they are serving their sentence. That is what I am really interested in.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

You said that prisoners who are misusing substances must be seen the next day.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

Rhoda MacLeod, do you want to come in?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

Can you remember a time when drugs were not such a big issue in the Scottish Prison Service?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

An important factor is the spin-off of having prisoners on those kinds of drugs, and the impact on their mental health makes it even harder.

I asked the Prison Officers Association about the suggestion that drugs get into prisons through either the coercion of prison staff or their being offered possible financial benefits. You probably heard the POA’s response to that, which was something that I had not thought about. If staff spot something that does not look right, they report it in the interests of self-protection and staying safe. There is not a high prevalence of what I am talking about, but it would be helpful to get your comments on it.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

I understand that. That is what I am getting at. However, we have to be hopeful. The Government is not doing nothing. Something is happening. I caveat this heavily by saying that the prison population could again go up above 8,000, so it could use up the space that you have.

I would just like the reassurance, which you might not be able to give, that we are thinking ahead to a point at which we might be able to alleviate some of the pressures in 2027 or 2028 and beyond.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

If we did not know it before this inquiry, we certainly know now how hard it is to be a prison officer and the dedication that is needed, especially now that our prisons are overcrowded. I just wanted to put that on the record.

Your submission talks about the exposure of your members—prison staff—to vapes and drugs. That is an aspect of the job that we must now take into account in this inquiry. Is that affecting your ability to attract young people—or those who want to change careers—into the service?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pauline McNeill

That was really helpful. There are others in the public sector—the police, for example—who do a difficult job on the street, but the closed environment of a prison is unique, and it is important to say that.

Lastly, when someone has been terrorised, do they tend to come to the union for support?