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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
You mentioned that the law in Belgium has not come into force yet. I do not know whether France is further down the road. Is there any evidence from France?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
Could we do that by beefing up our existing laws as opposed to introducing a new law?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
Yes—at least I did, but I have lost my place because I was listening intently.
The committee has been considering whether the bill will have a deterrent effect on individual and corporate behaviours and avoid instances of severe environmental damage. Are you aware of any evidence on how businesses or organisations have changed what they are doing because ecocide laws have been introduced? I will go to Ricardo first.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
Rachel Killean, do you have any more information about how the ecocide law is working in France? How many successful prosecutions have there been? Have organisations made any changes because of the threat of breaching ecocide laws?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
You mentioned one investigation taking place in France. Have there been any prosecutions so far? When they introduced the law, was it replacing an existing law or was it an addition to what they already had?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
Do we need the Acorn project in place before we can produce SAF?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
That links to my next question. The bill does not explicitly set out that undertaking licensed or consented activities cannot constitute ecocide or provide a defence along those lines. That has raised concerns among different sectors, including farming, fishing and renewables. Is the approach in the bill appropriate? What implications might it have for SEPA and NatureScot, as bodies that are actively involved in consenting and permitting?
Perhaps we can hear from Dr Mitchell, as he raised that issue.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
In my questions, I will continue to ask about project willow, which the deputy convener raised with you. There are two SAF projects in project willow. One is about first-generation SAF—the HEFA one—and the other is about third-generation SAF. Should we still be pursuing the first-generation project, especially when we look at the mandates that are coming forward? That is almost like a bridge to other fuels in the future. Is it still feasible to have that project within project willow?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
We spoke about responsibilities flowing down. You are responsible for licensing and consenting, so are you in danger of committing ecocide if you permit too many things? Could the responsibility then go back up to SEPA or even to the Scottish Government?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Douglas Lumsden
I put the same question on finances to Dr Mitchell. Does the figure cover what you might have to do?