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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

My next question is on openness and transparency. From reading the procedure, it seems to me that a complaint could be made and upheld but that would never be made public. Is that right? It is difficult, because we have to respect the confidentiality of the complainer and the person who is complained about, but it seems to me that there is a balance there, and I am not sure that it has been struck.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

If the six-month period has passed, who makes the decision on whether the matter will be investigated?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

But who makes that decision?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I want to talk a little more about the timings of complaints. It is clear from the procedure that, if a complaint is made within six months of an incident, it will be investigated. I want to ask about cases where complaints are made after that six-month period. From reading the procedure, it is not clear to me who decides whether the issue should be looked at. If it is decided that an incident will not be investigated because it has been too long since it occurred, will the appeal process kick in at that point, so that the complainer can take the issue further if they wish to do so?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Inward secondees and agency workers are not covered by the procedure. I understand that there are reasons for that—they are not employed by the Scottish Government—but are there legal reasons why they cannot be covered by the procedure? Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, whether it is towards an employee or an agency worker. Is there almost a loophole being created by excluding such workers?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

My next question ties into that. At the end of stage 1, if a complaint is not going to be proceeded with, will the person against whom the complaint has been made ever find out that a complaint has been made?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Implementation Plan Progress and Updated Complaints Procedure

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Fiscal Framework (Independent Report)

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I am just trying to understand the issue. Looking at the graphs, we see that there has been a positive impact for Wales. Does that mean that its economy is growing faster than Scotland’s? What does Scotland need to do to try to halt the decline of the benefits of tax devolution?

Maybe one of the other Davids would like to answer.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Fiscal Framework (Independent Report)

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

It is good to hear that the Welsh Government is doing a detailed analysis to try to understand those figures. I guess that the Scottish Government should do something similar to try to understand why the figures here are going in a negative direction.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Fiscal Framework (Independent Report)

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Would I be right in thinking that our current model was selected probably because the Scottish Government had more appetite for risk than the Welsh Government did when it was negotiating its block grant adjustments?