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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
Cabinet secretary, you have already acknowledged to the committee that that investment will take us back to the number of teachers that we had in 2008, if we can reach that. That is not even as many teachers as your Government first took on in 2007. The challenge that we face now is the greatest that we have ever faced.
We have very limited statistical evidence so far. I would like to see an awful lot more. Time and again, we have called for a focus on evidence. My question is how proportionate your response has been to the scale of the challenge. It does not seem to me as though, in your discussions with the finance secretary, you have been able to make or win the argument for more resource or for a more proportionate response to the challenge. Is that fair? The draft budget is a repetition of previous plans that do not really take into account the scale of the challenge that we face.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
I am sorry, cabinet secretary, but we cannot hear you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
Convener, I think that we have reached a bit of an impasse. The distance between the reality that teachers and pupils are facing on the ground and the cabinet secretary’s response is quite astonishing. The cabinet secretary referred to a case that I raised with her in the chamber, in response to which she told me to ask the teacher who had contacted me to raise the matter with their union representative. The teacher involved is the union rep in their school. People are finding that there is no recourse to get the kind of action on active ventilation that they need. It is clear from what we are hearing now that the funding that has been put in place cannot even be ring fenced for spending on ventilation. To be frank, I am at my wits’ end with the cabinet secretary on this matter. Thank you, convener, for indulging me on the subject.
11:30Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
So, you have not commissioned anything new to address that gap in information relating to secondary schools.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
I understand that.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
Perhaps it is just me. Apologies.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
Therefore, contrary to what the First Minister announced yesterday, that is not funding for active ventilation in school but just an additional £5 million on top of the previous moneys that have been allocated, which the cabinet secretary said have resulted in very limited action. That is very disappointing and, frankly, completely contrary—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
If I may speak, cabinet secretary.
It is very contrary to what the First Minister said yesterday. In December, Labour moved a motion, which SNP and Green colleagues voted against, to set out £30 million in total, which could have procured two HEPA filters for each classroom in Scotland. Is that not the kind of action that should be taken now? We are talking about the budget today. The cabinet secretary should recognise that—she should listen to the First Minister when she says in the chamber that it should happen—and argue for £30 million to be put in place in the budget in order to procure those filters.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
I think that it would be useful to follow up on some of the issues around data, cabinet secretary. The only data that we have so far regarding the impact of the pandemic on attainment and school achievement are the deeply concerning figures that came out regarding primary school attainment levels. They show that attainment is at its lowest-ever level and that the gap between the poorest kids and the rest is at its widest ever. You would share those concerns, would you not?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
When did you first have sight of those results? They were published on 14 December, and it was trailed in little snippets in various speeches and announcements that you expected the data to be very concerning for us all.