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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 February 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Would our witnesses from COPFS and the SPS like to comment?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Employment is the best solution to poverty, but only 29 per cent of autistic people are employed. That compares with a figure of more than 80 per cent for the general population. Unfortunately, many employers do not have sufficient understanding of what it means to be neurodivergent, which leads to poor workplace experiences and, sometimes, discrimination against neurodivergent staff. How are you working with employers to combat that stigma?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

There is often a postcode lottery when it comes to providing support for neurodivergent people in education, employment and the criminal justice system, which we heard about from witnesses earlier. There is a big divide between urban and rural areas, but where else do you see regional differences in support for neurodivergent people, and what do you think creates those differences?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Rob Holland, you mentioned criminal justice. I do not know whether you were listening earlier when I asked about the importance of data collection, whether in education, employment or criminal justice. My question was about the domestic abuse data that Police Scotland collects. A few areas are missing, but the one that I spoke about was disability data. After speaking to many organisations and victims, my belief is that, if you are not collecting the right data, you cannot provide the support to people who have a disability or a support need. We should not have another postcode lottery where people fall between the gaps, things are passed on and nobody knows that a person needs support. How important is data collection from the beginning?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I thank Superintendent Gallie for that information.

I have one more question, for Laura Buchan. As you mentioned earlier, information is passed to COPFS from the police. What does that information look like? Is it quantitative or qualitative information? How do you find out whether a person needs that extra bit of help?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

In response to one of my questions last week, the committee was told that a change in culture is necessary to better understand the needs of neurodivergent people. What are your thoughts on that, especially when it comes to the criminal justice system?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Jury Trials

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

At the meeting that I mentioned, DCS Sarah Taylor said that the bill is “groundbreaking” as it will give you more information about the perpetrator than you currently get. What is your view on that?

: At the meeting that I mentioned, DCS Sarah Taylor said that the bill is “groundbreaking” as it will give you more information about the perpetrator than you currently get. What is your view on that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Jury Trials

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you.

: Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Jury Trials

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I have a couple of questions. The first is for Adam Brown.

: I have a couple of questions. The first is for Adam Brown.

At our meeting in August, you indicated that you wanted to provide evidence to the Criminal Justice Committee, so it is good to see you here—thank you for coming. I recall that, in that meeting, your colleague DCS Sarah Taylor said that the bill would be “groundbreaking”. She also mentioned that having details in the register such as the perpetrator’s address at the time of the offence would be helpful, especially when the police have to go out looking for the perpetrator. There is a lot of information that you do not have currently, and having such information in the register would help with that issue. Similarly, the Scottish Police Federation signalled that it supports the bill, if it is provided with proper resources.

Domestic abuse costs the public sector billions of pounds each year, and the police have been underfunded by the Scottish Government for years. Therefore, do you agree with the Scottish Police Federation when it says that, with proper resources, the bill could work? Given your expertise, how do you think that we can make the bill work and bring down bureaucracy through amendments at stage 2?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Jury Trials

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I have some questions for the other witnesses—thank you all for responding to the call for views and coming here today. It is interesting to listen to the feedback, as it helps us to make better legislation.

: I have some questions for the other witnesses—thank you all for responding to the call for views and coming here today. It is interesting to listen to the feedback, as it helps us to make better legislation.

While putting the bill together, I consulted many survivors who believe that the current system is not working and that perpetrators are simply let out with a slap on the wrist and are allowed to reoffend. We know how high reoffending is: the statistics show that it occurs in more than half of reported cases. Domestic abuse cost the public purse £7.5 billion in a three-year period, while the estimated cost of the bill is around £23 million, which is less than 0.5 per cent of the justice budget. Do you not believe that, in the long term, the bill could help to save money? What changes would you like to see made at stage 2?