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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

I ask because the submission from ASPS, Suzanne Smith, says that 97 per cent of your members work for more than 40 hours per week. The difference might be that the salary for superintendents and chief superintendents starts at £79,000 and goes up to more than £106,000 a year. Is that a complaint about 97 per cent of your members working for more than 40 hours a week?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

That goes back to your point about overtime. With fewer and fewer officers, there will be an expectation—almost an obligation—that people will do overtime, which could add to their stress.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

Good morning, chief constable. In your opening remarks, you said that more than 50 per cent of staff had responded to the survey. Do you have any data about their views on welfare issues? If not, will the survey be published, and when?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

I have a final quick question. The SPF’s submission says that an officer who was seconded from A division—which, I believe, covers Ayrshire—into a suicide prevention role is no longer in that role. Do you know why?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

Absolutely. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

Okay. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

How long are the contracts for?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

When I first raised the tragedy of police officer suicides, the committee was surprised and concerned that they were not being recorded. They had not been quantified or measured in any way whatsoever. Then, last year, an assistant chief constable came to the committee and told us that five officers had died in three years. That information was based on doing “a manual trawl”—to use his exact words—of the databases. In today’s submission, Police Scotland has said that, in the 11 years since its formation, there have been 20 suicides and that that data has come from National Records of Scotland. How confident are you, collectively, of the accuracy of that number and that being the sole source of the data? How many of those 20 officers’ deaths were subject to fatal accident inquiries?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

It is that waterfall analogy.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

I will not ask about body-worn cameras, but I will just note that, in 2012, Grampian Police was the first force to pilot these cameras, so it is nice to see that, after all these years, they will be returning there, operationally.

David Threadgold, you referred to the Lifelines training. More than 1,000 officers and staff have attended that training, and you talked positively about it. Who provides that training? Towards the end of the Police Scotland submission, it says that it is moving towards having 110 officers and staff in the organisation who can facilitate that training, so it is clearly going to be an on-going thing.