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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

There were a lot of noises off, as you call them, in political terms. Education is a huge issue in Scotland. It is a priority in people’s lives, and that is a jolly good thing. However, the Government was clearly in the driving seat and making the decisions.

There are many questions that I could ask, but I will put just one more question to you, because I want to bring my colleagues in. On the sampling issue, you make in your submission the rather incendiary comment that

“the EIS’s trust in teacher judgement was not matched by that of the Scottish Government”.

On what basis do you say that?

11:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

The point that I am trying to make is that you are saying something fairly damning about the Scottish Government’s trust and belief in teachers.

Before I bring in Kaukab Stewart, the deputy convener, I have a question for Tara Lillis on a subject that we touched on with the previous panel. Tara, you mention in your submission the concept of overassessment and the compression that went on in the assessments this year. Have you or any of your members sought to define that? If so, what conclusions have you reached?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Report

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Moving on to our next agenda item, the committee will take evidence from the OECD on its recent report on Scottish education. I am delighted to welcome to the committee Dr Beatriz Pont, senior analyst, education policy, and Romane Viennet, policy analyst. We hope to take about an hour and a half of your time, Dr Pont and—I am looking across my screen to make sure that I can see her—Romane Viennet.

I will start the questioning, then bring in my colleagues as we go. My questions are directed at both or either of you. How did the pandemic restrict your ability to do the report, especially when it came to evidence gathering? What would you have normally done that you could not do because of the restrictions that were placed on you? That will be an interesting scene setter for the committee.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Report

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Thank you. Are you perfectly happy with that reply, Ross?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Report

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Before I turn to Willie Rennie, I think that Romane Viennet wants to make a contribution.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Report

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

You are confirming what Romane Viennet said. That is much appreciated.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

You mentioned data sharing with the UK Government. How is that going? Are there any issues that we should be made aware of? Such issues could be a direct impediment to the delivery of the benefit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

It is a critical issue, so a short response from Joanna would be good.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

We look forward to getting updates on that, because it is a critical part of the process.

Minister, I have one final question. Is there a reason why the legislation has to be reviewed annually? Why are the changes not automatic when the national living wage goes up? Help me to understand that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

We will now have a two-minute suspension to allow the minister and her officials, whom we thank again, to leave.

09:46 Meeting suspended.  

09:49 On resuming—