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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

It is interesting that the OECD called on us to restate and re-evaluate our vision of curriculum for excellence, which, in essence, is what you have just both said. Ross Greer has a supplementary question on this.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

There was a broadband blip at the start of the question. Could you repeat the first 15 seconds or so?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Just.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

I thank Larry Flanagan, Seamus Searson and Tara Lillis, who have been our panellists for the past hour and a half. We really appreciate your giving us your time. We thank you for not just your oral evidence but the written evidence that you submitted in advance of the meeting, for which we are very grateful.

We will conclude our evidence taking on the alternative certification model next week, when we will take evidence from the Scottish Qualifications Authority.

The public part of today’s meeting is now at an end. We will consider our final two agenda items in private.

12:40 Meeting continued in private until 12:57.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

That is what the OECD encourages us to do, is it not—to go back to the vision?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

I have no doubt that, despite your best efforts, some young people were left behind.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

With regard to your comment about the teachers’ experience being reflected in the experience of the young people, one of the schools that we spoke to last week highlighted the need for fun to be put back into learning. I think that that is an expression of what you have just been talking about.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Thank you for asking that question. I, too, have had representation from students in colleges who are reporting similar experiences to the ones that you just described.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

I quoted earlier the statistic from your survey that 36 per cent of teachers believed that the evidence that they collected truly demonstrated people’s attainment, which means 64 per cent did not believe that. That is a startling statistic.

We will go to Bob Doris for questions for the remaining 10 minutes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

In your submission, you mention a number of times that you believe that there was a hugely political dimension. On page 3, you mention the awareness of the forthcoming Scottish Parliament elections. How much of the decision making in the process was driven, in your view, by a political agenda from the Scottish Government?