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Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
The question is, that amendment 3 be withdrawn. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
Just to clear up any confusion, the question is, that amendment 3 be agreed to.
For
Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Against
Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
Before I bring in the minister, does any other member wish to speak to amendment 4 and the other amendments in the group?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener (Neil Gray)
Good morning, and welcome to the sixth meeting in 2021 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. We have received apologies from Natalie Don, and I am glad to say that Evelyn Tweed is attending as her substitute. [Interruption.] I am reminded by the alert on my laptop going off that we should have our mobile phones on silent.
Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 6, which is consideration of our work programme, in private. Do we agree to take item 6 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
Is Ms Duncan-Glancy content for Marie McNair to ask a question along those lines in the same letter to the minister?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
Members should make interventions brief, please.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
Thank you very much. That concludes the public part of the meeting.
10:51 Meeting continued in private until 11:14.Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
The question is, that amendment 4 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
There will be a division.
For
Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Against
Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
The Convener
The result of the division is: For 4, Against 4, Abstentions 0.
As the result is a tie, I will need to use my casting vote. Given the minister’s assurances that he will continue to evaluate and assess by other means, I cast my vote against the amendment.
Amendment 4 disagreed to.
Amendment 5 moved—[Jeremy Balfour].
10:05 Meeting suspended.