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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 27 March 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I have noted some of the evidence that has been put forward. I understand the live debates that there are, which the committee will be considering, around the shape of any proposed service and how it would interact with existing health services. It is for the committee to determine that in its stage 1 report and for the Parliament to consider that. My position will remain neutral until that has taken place.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

Again, I am trying to be as helpful as possible to Mr Gulhane and to the committee. I have set out in my opening statement that the Government is taking a neutral approach and that, as the lead minister for the bill, it would not be appropriate for me to comment on provisions within it. I note the evidence that has come forward and I understand the debate that is there. We will all have to consider the matter should the bill pass stage 1.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I would be happy to take that point away and to write to you to give you what I can on the financial memorandum considerations.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

For the Government, yes, that would be premature. We have nothing further to add, other than our position that we believe that elements in the bill would not pass legislative scrutiny and are not within our legislative competence.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I heard the evidence that the committee took this morning. I have not interacted with NRS on that issue, and I am not sure whether the committee has explored it with NRS, but it might be something to follow up on. We do not have a position on that as yet.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

Unfortunately not. Beyond what I have set out in the Government’s memorandum, I must maintain a strictly neutral position to allow the committee and the Parliament to assess the merits of the bill on the basis of what I believe will be a universally free vote, including for those in the Government. My responsibilities as health secretary and lead member for the bill will come in should the bill pass stage 1, and then there will be far more extensive dialogue and discussion and policy positions taken.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

Again, that is for Mr McArthur to consider. We have not taken a policy position on that issue. The Government does not have a policy position on the elements in the bill, so we would need to consider and determine the issues on the basis of the evidence that is gathered by the committee, should the bill pass stage 1.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

In the memorandum that I sent to the committee, we queried the financial memorandum. I note that Mr McArthur has done some further work on the back of that. However, we have concerns that the costs that have been set out in the financial memorandum do not go as far as what we believe could end up being the cost. It may well be that the bill would require a financial memorandum to be associated with it.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

The figure that I gave you was for doctors.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

In the course of this session, I will try to be as helpful as possible. I hope that you will note that, in response to Ms Mackay’s questions, I tried to give as expansive an answer as I could. I cannot say anything beyond what I have already set out and what is already in the memorandum that I sent to the committee.