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Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
I remind colleagues to debate through the chair and, when referring to colleagues, to do so with their full names for the benefit of those watching.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
The question is, that amendment 1 be agreed to. Are we agreed?
Members: No.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
Mr Balfour has a brief supplementary.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
To wind up the debate, I call Jeremy Balfour to press or withdraw amendment 1. I ask him to be brief.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
There will be a division.
For
Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Against
Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
The result of the division is: For 4, Against 4, Abstentions 0.
The vote is tied. I will use my casting vote. Given what the minister and colleagues have said, I cast my vote against amendment 1.
Amendment 1 disagreed to.
Amendment 6 moved—[Pam Duncan-Glancy].
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
To give colleagues a couple of minutes for a comfort break, I suspend the meeting.
10:35 Meeting suspended.Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
Amendment 2, in the name of Jeremy Balfour, is in a group on its own.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
Through the chair, please.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2021
Neil Gray
Just to be absolutely clear, are you saying that you expect that citizens advice bureaux or, for instance, CABIA in my constituency, will still be able to represent constituents at Social Security Scotland tribunals, but it is just that they would not be funded by the Scottish Government?