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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Karen Adam
Good morning, and welcome to the 23rd meeting in 2025 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received no apologies.
Under agenda item 1, do members agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of our work programme?
Members indicated agreement.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Karen Adam
Before we move on to part 2 of the bill, I ask whether members are content that they have asked everything that they wish to ask on part 1. Members can always come in at the end, but I want to ensure that we have finished with questions on part 1 and that we make a distinction in moving on to part 2.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Karen Adam
Cabinet secretary, some witnesses have suggested that part 2 of the bill is so distinct and different from part 1 that it should not be in the bill. What are your views on that?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Karen Adam
We will now have questions from Pam Gosal.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Karen Adam
Under item 2, the committee will hold its final evidence session on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill. I welcome Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills. She is accompanied by Lewis Hedge, deputy director of the curriculum and qualifications division; Joe Smith, children’s rights reporting and monitoring team leader; Denise McKay, deputy director of children, education, rights incorporation and disclosure in the Scottish Government legal directorate; and Sarah Booth, a lawyer from the Scottish Government legal directorate.
You are all very welcome, and I thank you for joining us. I invite the cabinet secretary to give a brief opening statement before we move to questions.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Karen Adam
Good morning, and welcome to the 22nd meeting in 2025 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received apologies from Pam Gosal, and Marie McNair will join us online. Our first agenda item is a decision on whether to take item 4 in private. Do we agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Karen Adam
Our next agenda item is taking evidence on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill. This is our second evidence session on the bill, and this morning we will hear from two panels of witnesses.
I welcome our first panel. We are joined in the room by: Juliet Harris, director, Together (Scottish Alliance for Children’s Rights); Gina Wilson, head of strategy, Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland; and Gavin Yates, executive director, Connect. We are joined remotely by Louise Church, who is the Scottish Youth Parliament’s member for Galloway and West Dumfries and also a member of its education and lifelong learning committee.
We turn to questions from members. I ask our witnesses to indicate to me when they would like to come in to respond to a member’s question or to any of the points that are raised. Louise Church, if you wish to come in, please type R in the chat function and the clerks will bring that to my attention.
I will kick us off. Last week, the committee heard from three panels of witnesses. They were all quite critical of the bill in various ways, and they were not supportive of it. What are your thoughts on the general principles of the bill?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Karen Adam
I welcome our second panel of witnesses. Dr Douglas Hutchison is executive director of education at Glasgow City Council and is representing the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland, and Susan Quinn is the convener of the education committee at the Educational Institute of Scotland. Good morning and welcome to you. We will move straight to questions, and I will kick off.
We heard critical feedback from the three panels of witnesses last week, and we heard various critical views about the bill from this morning’s first panel. What are your views on the general principles of the bill?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Karen Adam
We have questions from Marie McNair, who is joining us remotely.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Karen Adam
That concludes our questions. Thank you once again for joining us. We will discuss the remaining items on our agenda in private.
11:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:23.