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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
It is up to you what you would like to ask, Pam.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
I welcome our second panel of witnesses this morning. With us from the Scottish Government we have Kate Forbes, Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic; Kevin McGowan, unit head, equality division; Andrew Godfrey-Meers, BSL and social isolation policy manager; Alison Taylor, deputy director for improvement, attainment and wellbeing; and Robert Eckhart, additional support for learning policy team leader. You are all welcome; thank you for attending.
I invite the Deputy First Minister to make a short opening statement.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
That brings our second evidence session to a close. As a north-east Doric BSL user, I appreciate the awareness of regional BSL that has been shown this morning. I am sure that my dad will be watching and that he will also be pleased about that.
I thank the Deputy First Minister and her officials for joining us. I will suspend the meeting briefly before we turn to agenda item 3.
11:18 Meeting suspended.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. I put the same question to Stacey Gourlay and Rachel Tardito. From the context of a public body and public service, what have been the positive impacts of the BSL act, and what are the challenges in meeting its aims?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. We have heard really positive feedback from BSL users on Contact Scotland BSL, including that it has been life changing for some people, but unfortunately it has been threatened with closure a couple of times. What are your thoughts on Contact Scotland BSL? Is there anything that we can do to ensure that the service remains for BSL users?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
We are getting short of time now, but we still have a couple of members who would like to ask some questions. We go first to Pam Gosal.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. We will write to the Scottish Government and we will take on board Maggie Chapman’s suggestion.
That concludes our business in public. We will move into private session to discuss the remaining items on our agenda. Thank you.
11:24 Meeting continued in private until 12:09.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
We move on to questions from Marie McNair.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. We move on to a question from Marie McNair.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. I appreciate that those gaps have been highlighted and are being considered by the Government.
We have also taken evidence from deafblind tactile BSL users, who feel that there has perhaps not been parity of esteem or parity in regards to education for tactile BSL. What are your reflections on that?
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